Tulip Red
Red has been the bane of cookie decorator’s existences for well, centuries as far as I know. Except that I made the centuries part up. But for decades, AT LEAST!
Red causes stress, PERIOD. Why, you ask? Well first of all, it does weird things like take two or three days to develop into the proper color. It also likes to bleed and make the cookies that were perfectly beautiful the night before, tear-worthy the next morning. And to top it all off, it tastes like {let’s not mince words here} CRAP!
This is why I use tulip red. Obviously, I use a LOT of it. Those are 13.5 and 4.5 ounce bottles.
Truth is, there is no shortage of bad tasting icing colors. Black, orange, purples, pinks, burgundy, and of course most reds have a bitter aftertaste. Of course, this isn’t bothersome or even noticeable to some people, but it’s enough to make me skip a cookie, and I NEVER skip cookies. BLECH!
When I first began making cookies, I used Wilton’s no-taste red. The only problem with that was that all it took was a batch of ladybugs to wipe out a whole container, so I had to come up with something else.
What I wanted was no-taste red in bulk, but tons of searching led to absolutely nothing. Since I am not the type to give up easily, I quit Googling and began calling.
I hit the jackpot at Country Kitchen. It was from them I learned that in decorators code, “tulip red” means “no-taste”. Who’d have thunk?!
Of course, being the know-it-all that I am, {my husband often addresses me as doctor} I didn’t quite believe them, so I ordered one of each brand to verify. Turns out they were telling the truth!!!
So, in the name of better tasting cookies, I am sharing my knowledge with you.
In case you’re wondering about the color, tulip red is pretty close to super red. I’d say it’s a little bit more “orangey” but really unless you’re color matching for a wedding or something, the difference is so SUBTLE, no one will ever notice. See?
I almost exclusively use tulip red. As a matter of fact, I have never even purchased a bottle of super red until about two months ago, specifically to compare it to tulip red for THIS POST!
I used tulip red for all of the pirate cookies you have seen this week, AND this set which in my humble opinion looks just dandy.
Another cool factoid for those of you who might be interested, different brands of tulip red yield different shades. So, if you do get that all important wedding order, you may want to compare, Americolor tulip red, Country Kitchen tulip red, and Wilton’s no-taste red. Chances are, on of them will do the trick!
I almost ALWAYS order my color from Global Sugar Art because they carry 13.5 ounce bottles of Americolor, which was a necessity back in my cookie making prime. These days, I don’t usually need that much at once, BUT I still shop there because of the color selection.
Tulip red works for me, and I hope it works for you. Incidentally, this was SUPPOSED to be my Works for Me Wednesday Post, which I missed, but, it works for me on every other day of the week too, so I went ahead and shared it today. I hope this takes some of the frustration out of yucky tasting red icing.
Speaking of frustration, here are a few tips when working with red:
- Red is one of those colors {like black, brown, purple, and blue} that take a while to develop. Making it a day or two ahead of time will really save a lot of color, and prevent the disasters that tend to happen with over-colored icing.
- Red bleeds, so if you are using red, make sure that the bottom layer is dry before adding red on top. I STRONGLY suggest using a fan to reduce the chances of bleeding.
- Also {I learned this tip from a veteran cake decorator} if you’re going to need a lot a red icing, make a batch of icing using the liquid from maraschino cherries! It adds flavor, and it gives you a good pink base to start with.
- If you’re sensitive to bitter colors like I am, try mixing your own oranges and purples. I combine tulip red and egg yolk yellow for orange, and electric or royal blue and tulip red to make purples. One of my favorite pinks, is actually a very small touch of tulip red mixed with white. Obviously, you cannot get around ALL bad tasting colors, but you can certainly reduce how often you use them. This tip comes in ESPECIALLY handy around Halloween which is the season of poopy icing colors!
Happy Friday y’all!
Thanks for these great tips!
Oh MY WORD….these cookies, I’m just speechless……
OMG, your cookies, I”m speechless…..
What a great tip – as always! Thanks for the advice, and for sharing those amazing cookies. I lovelovelove those treasure maps!
(BTW, I hope you repost all of these pirate cookie pictures for national Talk Like a Pirate Day, September 19th!)
I want to be able to make cookies like you. WAHHHH!
Couldn’t agree with you more!! Reds are killers if you’re not careful. The tip I got from another veteran baker/decorator was to add cocoa powder to the royal icing when using red, but I like the Maraschino cherry tip=D BTW, the cookies are fabulous!!!!! Nothing new here=)
Great tips on red. Have a tiny question. When you are making cookies and drying them overnight to add details, do you cover them to prevent drying out? Joni
No i leave them uncovered joni. Really very little of the cookie us exposed. The icng covers a lot and the bottom is against the sheet.
I’m going to run out and give it a try! In particular, I can’t wait to use your formula for purple. I love basically every Americolor color–except their purples. The Regal Purple makes an excellent color if you want denim blue, but it’s definitely not purple!
Great post!! And I LOVE those cookies, the map ones are just incredible!!!! I want to have a pirate party now!!!
I recently switched to all powdered food coloring just for this very reason. More than one customer complained of food coloring tastes in my cakes and cookies (I own a bakery) so I had to do something different. I am amazed how quickly the powders mix in compared to the gels, plus no taste at all.
That’s a great idea! Where do you purchase the powders? Also, is there a considerable price difference compared to the gels?
Thanks
Paige
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I recently started working in a bakery. The lady I work with has never tasted the colored icing we use for our fancy donuts. Red and purple and blue taste like nothing more than food coloring, to say the least it’s disgusting. What would you suggest for donut icing colors, I’ve never heard of powder colors. anytips? help please!!
I love these, they are so cute!! I will have to try the Tulip Red!
Thanks for the tips – I always have trouble with red blotching after a few days – tried someone’s suggestion of adding corn starch and that has helped a bit. Also, thanks for the Global Sugar Art tip – love CK but have a hard time coming up with $125 minimum order!
Gina, there shouldn’t be a minimum…I shop all the time.
I like how you said back in your cookie making days… You still make cookies!! 🙂
Red is just a mean color. It causes trouble in baking and it even gives me grief when I paint. BLEH.
Thanks for the heads up on the tulip red! I appreciate it!
Good to know – thanks!
Lisa
Thank you for your tips, they are always appreciated and very helpful. About that pirate cookie platter, WOW!! The detail, amazing! I hope to one day, be just as precise with all the detail on my cookies as you are or a ‘lil close to it. Makes me want to have a summer pirate gathering with all the kiddos. <3
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!
I LOVE your treasure map Callye! That is so cool! I’m still finishing up my no taste red Wilton color before making the switch to Americolor, so I’ll have to remember the Tulip Red. Bitter taste does not sound yummy! Thanks for the post and sharing your knowledge!
Wow! Thank you for the tip! I would never have known that!
~Donna~
I’ve known about “yucky” tasting red for, uh— do I dare say 25+ years (I started decorating cakes in my teen years) and I had never heard of using tulip red – nor did I ever think about asking around. Like you, in the past I used Wilton’s NO TASTE red and the WHOLE container when I made a Clifford the Big RED Dog cake for my daughter’s birthday many years ago. Gosh, another item to add to my shopping list – and another Bake Shop “Country Kitchen” to check out. Thanks for ALL the tips. 🙂
Awesome tips as always.
I can’t get pass the purple it smells and tastes so bad.
I need to get some of that tulip red. thanks dear.
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I use a lot of red for my Elmo cookies and it is so important to use a no taste red color. Thanks for the tips.
Just so you know these tid bits of knowledge are amazing! You do really great work!
pirettes!! 🙂
I knew I wasn’t imagining things when my ladybugs looked a deeper red the next day! Thanks for the tips – my no-taste red always gets grainy, so I may be going with the tulip red, too…
This is excellent! I wish I had known this before I bought a huge bottle of Super Red. Any tips for nasty black? Thanks for all of your tips and tutorials. I read your blog everyday 🙂
You can use some cocoa powder in the icing. It flavors it and gives it a darker base so you don’t need quite as much black coloring.
Wow! I had no idea that tulip red had no taste. THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing that!! I will definitely be using more of that in the future! Thanks!!
I’m so glad you posted this tip!! I only wish I had this information earlier in the week when I made some red RI and tried wilton’s no-taste red, but when it didn’t turn out the color I wanted I added some Christmas red until I was happy with the color. The cookies that just had small red accents (cherries on cupcakes) weren’t too bad but the cookies I made all red were terrible! I just tried to chew fast and drink something I hate that bitter dye taste! So anyways thanks for the tip, I’ll make sure I use it from now on! And of course, as always your cookies are fabulous!! I hope someday I’m half as good as you are!!
Paige
You’re absolutely right… I’m extremely sensitive to tastes & smells, and certain colors will make me wrinkle my nose and not go back for seconds (or even finish the first!). Black is the worst, especially when someone decides to use licorice to cover the flavor. BLEAH!
Thanks for the suggestions on how to help that!
Thank you the helpful tips, it’s greatly appreciated. 🙂
Thank you for posting this. I have always skipped red/pink/black cookies, cakes, cupcakes, etc. because of the taste. I love your tips!
And those cookies are just….wow!! You rock!
Tulip Red = No Taste. Nope, I never would have guessed that one! I think you just enlightened about a zillion of us Interwebbin’ bakers. Thank you!
When I took cake decorating from a bakery, they taught us that the tulip red has no taste. They sold CK tulip red and to me it seemed to have a pink tone to it. Getting a true Christmas red seems to elude me. What brand/color do you use for Christmas?
Georgia I never have really used anything but tulip red. But if you want the deep rich christmassy red I would a touch of black to super red. I americolor and love it in most cases…I do use a little Wilton and im about to start experimenting with powder 🙂
You’re BRILLiant Dr. SugarBelle! The Marischino cherry tip is great!!! I’m going to attach that note to my SugarBelle mixology color wheel. Thanks for everything you share to help us budding cookie decorators become better and better.
Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’d never heard of tulip red before and I *have* avoided making cookies that required red — and any significant quantity of black! I detest that awful, bitter taste. My solution was to use colored sanding sugars to enhance a lesser shade of the color I was seeking–this is a MUCH better solution.
I too, only use tulip red by americolor.The reason super tastes funky is that it contains iodine, which the tulip red does not. This is why alot of times when you are out and have red velvet cake it had an off taste which no amount of cream cheese frosting can hide! Good advice…
Hi there!
Love this topic! I have tried many different add-ons to mask the taste of some of the food colors. I just wanted to share. Unsweetened chocolate is one of my favorites, but we have been known to use a tiny bit of Kool aid in some of our reds.
When tinting your icings, I wanted to suggest using a squirt of pre-colored icing to vary the shade of a color. It is a good way to use up left overs as well as it being much less saturated. It’ll help you get control over small changes and it isn’t so scary!
Thanks for sharing this Callye I will definatly be picking up a bottle of tulip red on my next trip to GSA. I’m lucky he’s an hour away from me I love his store and Allan is so nice, always great service at GSA.
You always give the most incredible cookie decorating tips! Thank you so much 🙂
Thanks for the tips on the food coloring! I was just looking online to order some!
Thank you so much for sharing all those tips! There are so many variations of colors out there and to test them all would be expensive and time consuming. You’re a cookie genius!
I learned something new today…thank you and your pirate cookies are absolutely adorable!
I wish I knew that about black food coloring when I made a cake for a co-worker a couple of years ago that required black icing. I used about half the jar because I didn’t think it was dark enough (it looked purple). but when it set, it was a perfect black.
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my dear, i really cannot express my joy to you after reading your post about “RED” i am one of those who doesn’t hv any clue why on earth this RED does’t turn out right.I have few bottles of red colouring that really made me upset..thank you so much may the good lord bless u always… thank you thank you
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Love this post! I always use tulip red as well…I started out 4 years ago using Americolor Super Red and always had trouble with it. I don’t have trouble with it now..but if I make to much in advance and let the icing sit the icing tends to break up a bit and I have to stir it a bit..but no biggie..at least I am not scared with the bleeding, which happens often in Memphis. I need someone to write a book on bleeding along…ughh!!
I have a black tip! When I have to make lots of black for say a cake, I start with chocolate butter cream instead of white. Adding the cocoa or chocolate makes you WAY closer to black and you will not have to use as much coloring, plus it will taste better than the bitter black!
Just curious what over colored icing does. I have made a batch of cookies using a dark blue and they turned out awful. Just wondering if that could have been the reason why.
OMG! Love the tips! Thank you so much! 🙂
Well I never – Tulip Red – now I know, thanks for sharing.
I LOVE your site. I just found a passion for cookie decorating! Quick question… What would be the reason for using white coloring if the icing is already white? Does it give some kind of shine or change the texture? Wondering if it is a necessary purchase for a beginner.
Thanks much!
I never ever saw the point either. I don’t use it, but I know a few decorators that swear by it! Bottom line, if you aren’t missing it, you probably don’t need it, LOL!
I use white colouring in my buttercreams – in Australia we tend to use 100% butter not shortening so it is always a slight yellow. White Americolor fixes that in a jiffy and everything tastes great! Good to have on hand.
I buy the white to paint cookies or fondant with. I use it straight or to change the shade of another color I am painting with. I don’t actually use it to color icing with. I couldn’t tell it did anything to my icing.
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hi how do you get your icing so shiny mine looks really dull thanks
I think if you put a dot of royal blue in the tulip red, you’ll get the super red.
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You are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!! Thank you for sharing such wonderful eye candy as well as being so generous with your tips and tutorials. May your life be blessed.
Hey Callye,
Look through the archieves for ideas. Can you tell me what cutters you used for these pirate cookies? My grandson is having a pirate party in about 6 months (I’m planning ahead). I have a pretty neat pirate head cutter but I haven’t found a good ship…or that map is cool.
Thanks for any help!
…Kim
I recently used wilton no taste red before I read this on your blog. A day or so later I had dark brown spots randomly on my cookies. They were kept in an air tight comtainer. Have you ever had this happen and if so do you know why?
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Dear Sugarbelle,..you have soo many amazing ideas, and tutorial tips for those of us who are just starting out in the cookie business,…thankyou!!! may I ask why you don’t go into business for yourself…your cookies are awesome!!!! beautiful work!!!!!!..I fell in love with the flourpot cookies and bought their book many years ago..when it came out..it intrigued me being a former cake Decorator myself….Decorated cookies Hmmmmmm..??? I thought..and I thought then and still dooo that THEY did beautiful work..I must say ur royal icing cookies RULE the ROOST lady!!!!! Thankyou again! BTW..You arte a very good teacher…..if you can teach this 42 year old..you can teach anyone!
I use super red and it’s not nearly as bad as WIlton’s red. Ugh that stuff is sooooo gross that I wouldn’t even taste the icing or eat the cookies with it on it. I will have to try tulip red next time. I am please with all of americolors colorings. it’s a great product.
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I tried something to stop color bleeding the other day and it worked – that time anyway. I mixed meringue powder with a little water and using a paint brush I brushed a little onto the edge of the black, let it dry and then placed the red color beside it. No bleeding. Didn’t take much time and didn’t change the looks any that I could tell.
I’ve been waiting YEARS for this post!!! We can’t get anything but Wilton where I’m from, so I used two containers of no taste red for the pull Apart pointsettia cookies you did. The reddest it got was a rose pink, which was close to the real thing but it wouldn’t dry. I had to scrap the whole batch, scrape off the pink from the cookies, and do them off white, which came out beautiful. But I was so annoyed!!! Thank tou fir posting this.
I am super excited to read this, because I bought Americolor Tulip Red for the first time today! Can’t wait to try it! Thank you for the tips!
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What are the ingredients? I am tired of finding out food has petroleum in it!
THANK YOU! I am a professional cake decorator and I’m a little embarrassed to tell you that I had no idea that tulip red was no taste. I have been searching for a bulk no taste red. I am so glad I came across this. I never leave comments but I just had to say THANK YOU!!
Hello!!
Loved the cookies , i am doing some pirate cookies for my
Nephew birthday. And I was just wondering where did you get
These cutters???
Thank you!!
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HI
Could you please let me know how to make black color royal icing ?
Thanks
I use americolor super black gel. It gives great results every time.
so, just a question. The Super Red has a taste, but the Tulip Red does not?
Also for Black, can you use Super Black? does it also have a taste?….
Thanks
I’ve studied Graphic Design and I had to take Painting lessons, so I had to learn how to mix a lot of colors to get other tones. This is just an idea I had when I saw the two “Reds” (Tulip Red and Super Red):
Have you ever tried mixing the “Tulip Red” with a little bit of black? I believe you’ll get something close to the “Super Red” tone. Try it and let me know if it works for you.
And by the way, thanks a lot for the tip for the no-taste Red for the Icing!
Thank you for the tips.. I’ll try them maybe I won’t panic so much now!!??
Thank you !!! You have saved me for the cupcakes I will be making for my grandson’s 1st birthday.
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When I need black I start with chocolate BC not so much color is needed. Love the tip on tulip red. I hate the taste of food color. I need to make a solo cup cake which is all red. You saved my cake!
Thank you. I know this is an old post but I’m glad I found it.
I’ve seen many decorators say to NOT make icing ahead of time because it seperates and should be used day of. I would love to be able to make mine a couple of days ahead since that is what is so time consuming but have never tried it. You say you have- what are your thoughts and experiences?
Thank you, ladybug!!! Not being sensitive to bitterness, I did not know that the red was so bitter. I will use tulip red from now on! Thank you, once again!
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